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2 mpc or not 2 mpc that is the question????

2 mpc or not 2 mpc that is the question????

27 Jan 2004, 19:45
I was thinking of buying the mpc 2000xl but if I buy the ultimate drum card srx...whatever would that be about the same thing....sounds wise or not???

FLEXX
FLEXX

Re: 2 mpc or not 2 mpc that is the question????

27 Jan 2004, 22:08
I had an MPC 2000 studio version when they first came out and it came with about 3 floppy disks with a couple of drum kits and every once in awhile Akai would put some sounds on their web site you could download...You had to load the operating system (off of a floppy) and then load the sounds you wanted to use everytime you turned the machine on...The sequencer was pretty nice but I found it was a pain to get everything going and with only a handful of sounds wasn't really worth the money...I have the Dynamic drums card and think the sounds are killer with velocity layers...There are definately more drum sounds included than with the mpc unless Akai did some major changes....I did some sampling on the MPC and it sounded good....I also had a Kurzweil K2500 with sampling and now a S-88 with sampling but I have found nothing that comes close to my sampler of choice- Gigastudio on a dedicated computer....There is absolutely no comparison!

Re: 2 mpc or not 2 mpc that is the question????

28 Jan 2004, 08:23
First a disclosure: I've got an MPC2000 Studio w/ all expansions that I will sell you real cheap. Reply to this post and we can discuss it further.

Now here's the thing about the MPC vs the SRX board - The MPC can load any .WAV sample you want. Second, with the expanded outputs, you have 10 outputs. Many people like to EQ each drum differently, so that's where having the extra outputs is cool vs the limit of 4 outputs on the Fantom-S. Also, alot of people like the feel of the MPC sequencer - that's why they're so popular for hip hop and dance music. Finally, the way they allow you to switch between record, play, and overdub is very cool when you're "in the flow". And the 16 velocity and pressure sensitive pads are cool also - especially the 16 velocities feature. Although if you have a Fantom-S, you have a facimile of that. However many people complain about the response of the pads on the Fantom-S, which is assumably why Roland reworked them for the upcoming "X" series.

So why would I be getting rid of the MPC? Because I want to move into computer sequencing, and the type of music I want to transition to does not require the MPC. However if I can't sell it I will happily use it for the 16 velocity sensitive pads and to trigger extra drum sounds.

I Say MPC 2000XL

28 Jan 2004, 10:53
I have the Fantom-S61 and just out of experience. I will have to say as far as drum sounds are concerned the mpc out shines any key board drum sounds. I do rap music, so I can't speak on other genre's of music but, I'm telling you what I know. I've purchased every jv expansion, to srx expansion that had anything to do with giving me the sounds that I needed as far as drums are concerned and I could never get the thickness and punch that I was looking for. So what I did was got a good friend of mine with an mpc to load a few different types of kicks, snares, congos, bongos, and other drum sounds in protools. I then, tweeked some compression on the sounds and had him burn them to cd for me. From there I just sampled the sounds in to my FS so now I have what I was looking for.

bwoi
bwoi

Re: 2 mpc or not 2 mpc that is the question????

28 Jan 2004, 19:56
Theoretically the MPC is just an Akai sampler, so it may be the sounds themselves that are attracting you. Many people develop hip-hop/dance sounds exclusively for the MPCs because they are so ubiquitous (man I wish we had a spell check) in those types of music. And of course the 2000s read and write .WAV files so I can't see what the difference in playing a .WAV in a Fantom vs playing it in an MPC.

BUT - like I just posted, the MPC gives you the separate outputs and the feel of the sequencer and the unique way of working which many people prefer. So far no other hardware sequencer can do that. The Roland MV8000 looks like it is trying, but if it can't switch between record (erase) mode and overdub mode while the sequence is looping, then it's missing a major feature in my opinion.

Re: 2 mpc or not 2 mpc that is the question????

29 Jan 2004, 07:22
I have an MPC-2000xl, I compare its sampler to the Fantom S sampler thuroghly. While I am still basking in my new Fantom, I will tell you that the MPC is a distinct and unique machine. Nothing quite like it. If not for its akai sound, then l\love it for its sequencer set up and those 16 drum pads. Which feel like nothing else.

I have a friend who actually prefers yamaha samplers to akai, but still uses his mpc to sequence the yamaha's!

I'm a hard techno man, and for straightforward, banging percussion, the mpc is a good machine.

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