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Is anyone using their Fantom to trigger samples like Ableton

Is anyone using their Fantom to trigger samples like Ableton

22 Mar 2007, 11:01
I wasn't sure how to search for this, so I thought I'd start a new topic. If there are any exisiting topics about this, please let me know.

Some background. My band Thousand Houses is a three piece (guitar, drums and me). I cover the bass parts with my left hand triggering a Moog Voyager RME. I use my MacBook Pro for Rhodes and Wurly samples (Scarbee run from Logic Pro). I use an Xp-60 on top to trigger the bass sounds and I split the board so I can have some synth pads on top.

I just bought a Fantom X6 on ebay which will arrive on Friday. I am really excited about it and will be replacing the XP-60 in my setup.

Since I am covering bass parts with my left hand, I have a lot left to do with just one remaining hand. I had been thinking about using Ableton Live to trigger some samples, (pads, arrpegios, etc.) to fatten up our live sound a bit. However, I am really curious about using the Fantom pads to accomplish the same thing. I watched the videos at the Roland site and am really excited about the skip-back sampling feature and assigning things I have played to pads.

If I am not mistaken, I could even have my guitar player lay some things into the Fantom and I could trigger them at the right points of the song.

Is anyone using their Fantom in this way? What are the things I should be concerned about? Here are a few I came up with.

1. Sample load time. If I have a different set of things for each song, I assume I can assign them to the pads as a kit and have the kit change on each song. Is there a lot of downtime when doing this? I suppose it depends on the size of the samples of course.

2. Memory. I am not sure how much the Fantom comes with and how quickly I would use it up. Again, I am sure that depends on the size of the samples. I am thinking that the things I assign to pads will be relatively short. A few bars at the most.

3. Tempo. I would like to get away with not using headphones for my drummer. However, if I want to use rhythmic samples, I imagine it would be necessary. I guess I could hit the tap tempo but that would be problematic, I would guess. I assume performances can be saved with a starting tempo, correct? It probably wouldn't matter as much if I were just triggering samples that were held pads.

Those are the things I came up with off the top of my head. I am totally open to comments, ideas and warnings.

Thanks!!

Mitch

Re: Is anyone using their Fantom to trigger samples like Abl

22 Mar 2007, 21:05
I am doing this with my band, and having a lot of fun with it.

1. Unless the power dies during your set, you won't have to worry about load time. You power up the machine, and once it's up and running, all your samples are loaded (bare in mind, if you have huge samples, you'll have to have enough sample ram). I have made a few kits of samples which I trigger during the song. When you save a patch, save the kit with it, and then everytime you switch to a new patch, the kit switches with it, very convenient. It's a little more involved using Performances, and I have to admit I haven't quite got that side doing what I want yet.

2. I have 256ram, so far I have tonnes left, and I have quite a few 2-3 meg stereo samples.

3. If you're triggering tempo based samples, it can be a problem. Without headphones, you will have to be quite loud for the drummer to pick up on when the sample starts for him to follow.

There's work arounds for everything of course, and I think the advantages far outweigh the caveats. My band/audience gets a kick out of me dropping samples in & out of some of the stuff we do.

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