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Tempo/Pitch Sync?

12 Jan 2004, 22:53
Hi,

I was wondering if it was possible to somehow link the tempo with the pitch of a sample/patch.

I am currently just using pitch bending on the patch in performance mode, but I would like my drumbeat/tempo to sync with the sample sound as it changes pitch.

I hope this makes sense :-)
Thanks
Our Music - www.bodyprint.net

Re: Tempo/Pitch Sync?

14 Jan 2004, 10:57
You can synch any wave, whether sampled or one of the ROM sounds to tempo by using the aptly names WAVE TEMPO SYNCH parameter of a patch, or simply selecting TEMPO SYNCH when you load a sample.

However, that doesn't do exactly what you are suggesting which sounds like you want the opposite behaviour, i.e change the tempo of the sequencer/rhythm in synch with the tempo of the sample which changes as a the sample changes pitch. So you want the whole performance to speed up and slow down in synch with the sample.

Did you mean that?
Loz

Re: Tempo/Pitch Sync?

16 Jan 2004, 12:13
Yeah Lawrencew, you pretty much got it. Is it possible?

I have explored the FS back to front and can't seem to woirk it out.

Thanks
Our Music - www.bodyprint.net

Re: Tempo/Pitch Sync?

17 Jan 2004, 09:21
I think no one is responding because it can't be done.

Not because it is in the wrong topic :-)
Loz

Re: Tempo/Pitch Sync?

17 Jan 2004, 11:34
No, this IS possible!

Matrix Control lets you have a control destination of sequencer's TEMPO. So, in your patch's CTRL 1/2/3/4 tab set Control Source to TEMPO and Control Destination to PITCH and then adjust the sensitivity (the amount of pitch shift to be appiled as tempo lowers/raises).



Artemio.

Re: Tempo/Pitch Sync?

17 Jan 2004, 12:00
Oh my God, I LOVE you artemio !!!

Thank you soooo much.
I will try tomorrow and let you know how it goes :-)

Thanks again.
Our Music - www.bodyprint.net

Re: Tempo/Pitch Sync?

17 Jan 2004, 12:01
Don't think so.

That doesn't change the tempo of the sequence as the tempo of the sample changes as the pitch changes. The tempo of the sequence remains the same AFAIKS.

He is trying to link the tempo of the sequence to the tempo of the pitch.
Wave Tempo synch does this - but the oppostite way round to what bodyprint wants. He wants Tempo Wave synch if you see what I mean - the sample sets the tempo of the sequencer, not the sequencer sets the tempo of the sample

You can have a control SOURCE of TEMPO, but this requires a control DESTINATION of TEMPO - And I can't see that (despite what you post says)

Correct bodyprint?
Loz

Re: Tempo/Pitch Sync?

17 Jan 2004, 12:08
I don't care if the tempo control changes the pitch, as long as they stay in time.

EDIT
Isn't that possible through the Matrix?
Our Music - www.bodyprint.net
I should be going to bed, but I had to try it.

It works.

As I turn my tempo control, the pitch goes up and down.

If you want to know how Lawrence just let me know. I'll quite happily go through each step.

Thanks again artemio.
Our Music - www.bodyprint.net

Re: Tempo/Pitch Sync?

17 Jan 2004, 12:22
I'm glad it worked for you, BODYPRINT. Good luck!

Re: Tempo/Pitch Sync?

17 Jan 2004, 12:29
Well I am slightly confused as to what you wanted now.

I thought you wanted the sample tempo to control the sequencer tempo. This would enable you to control the sequencer tempo by playing the keyboard - as the pitch changed, the tempo of the sequencer would change to keep in synch.

What you just described isn't quite the same. You are changing the tempo and altering the pitch - which in turn changes the tempo. It is not altering the pitch and having that control the tempo which is what I thought you wanted...

Wave Tempo Synch changes the tempo of the sample in time with the sequencer tempo without changing the pitch

This approach doesn't actually change the tempo of the sample, it just changes the pitch.

Both have their different uses I guess.


Still, I am pleased you have found a solution of course :-)
Loz

Re: Tempo/Pitch Sync?

17 Jan 2004, 12:39
Well, as I understood, BODYPRINT wanted the sample pitch AND tempo to be changed with sequencer tempo. Timestretching-based tempo sync doesn't change the pitch (like the tempo sync used in XP/XV series), so it's often a nice effect for a beat/phrase to "slow down" both in pitch and tempo etc.

Maybe he wanted to sync the sequencer to the sample - but this is impossible. It is, however, possible to control the tempo of the sequencer with a knob, which can make nice effects too.

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