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Old D50 keyboard

Old D50 keyboard

7 Jun 2010, 05:41
Hello, Ive just acquired an old D50, but, being an acoustic player, have never used a synth and have no instructions.
Theres a nice string sound in the presets but it has a very slow attack.
Can anyone tell me, in basic layman terms, how to make the attack sharper and then save the sound I create?
Thankyou.

Re: Old D50 keyboard

7 Jun 2010, 08:48
Zippyadeeday..


Hopefully... yes:

First thing to do if you are going to edit, turn off the memory protection:
Press TUNE/FUNCTION.
There should be "Protect ON" in the middle, just above the 'Tone Balance' button. If you press the one Balance button the ON will now flash.
You can use the joystick left/right or 'Inc' / 'Dec' buttons to change this to from on to off, or off to on. Think it defaults to on on power up of the D-50.

Now we get editing..
Not knowing if the patch in question is using 'Whole' or 'Dual' mode, I'll work on the assumption it is a 'Dual' patch (it's using 2 synths layered upper & lower).
If it is on 'Whole' only the upper synth section is being used.

Press the 'U-TONE EDIT' under the main screen.
You will see various options appear, each function matches a button under the screen, so becomes like a function button.
Let's select 'Part-1', so press the TONE BALANCE button.
New functions now appear. You want to speed up the attack of the patch, so press 'L-TONE EDIT' which matches to (TVA) on the screen.
This screen contains information, but not what we need, we need to see the next screen. This is done by pressing the PATCH EDIT ___\ button.
You will see a bunch of numbers each has a T1, T2 , T3, T4 and T5.
These numbers are 'time', refer to the small graphic on the end section of the D-50 under TVF/TVF ENV.
So if T1 has a high number, it will take long to reach the point of L1.
T4 is the time to reach the sustain section of the patch, So T1, T2, and T3 all play a part on how long it reaches this. T5 is the time taken for the note to die off when you release the key.
The 'L' is level, and is set on the next page PATCH EDIT ____\ If you want to go back a page, use the TONE DETUNE /____ button.
You can use the 'Patch bank' buttons numbers 1 to 4 to select the various parts of the patch:
1 = Lower Part 1
2 = Lower Part 2
3 = Upper Part 1
4 = Upper Part 2

Are you still with me?

Let's reduce the T1 values of Upper Part 1:
Press Patch Bank # 3
Press KEY MODE, the value of T1 will now be flashing.
You can use the left/right of the joystick, the 'Inc' or 'Dec', or enter a numeric value on the number pad followed by the enter.
You may need to edit part 2 of the upper tone for the edit to be noticeable, so lets do that:
Press Patch Bank # 4
Now KEY MODE and now a value.

You may find the attack is now just right, you may think it's still not quick enough.. If it is still not quick enough, reduce the T2 values.

You can turn parts on and off using the Patch Number buttons, this sometimes helps when trying to pin point what each tone is doing within the patch.

Once you have tweaked your D-50 string sound to your liking you want to store it.
Pressing the 'Write' button will take you write screen.
The I (or C) will be flashing. I - Internal memory C - card memory.
[NB - if you have the original ROM data card you will not be able to write to the card, you will have to use a internal memory slot, it will write to RAM card, providing the memory protection switch is off]
The usual joystick or 'Inc / Dec' buttons change the value.
Pressing TONE BALANCE makes the patch number flash, so you can store it in another location to the current patch number if you wish.
Pressing ENTER stores the patch.

Now you name your patch if you wish, and you can name the upper, and lower tones too.
The patch name is accessed by pressing PATCH EDIT, then KEY MODE.
Once changed press Write then Enter.
To name the upper tone:
U-TONE EDIT, then KEY MODE, edit the name, and either edit the lower tone name, by pressing Exit and:
L-TONE EDIT, then KEY MODE, and edit that..
But remember to press 'Write' and then 'Enter' else it will be lost.

You can download the D-50 manual from Roland:
ftp://ftp.roland.co.uk/ProductSupport/D-50/

There is a basic, and I assume advance manual. The basic will explain how to plug it in, and connect it up.
The advanced will detail every parameter, good stuff if you have trouble sleeping..

Hopefully I have provided enough to allow you to edit the patch to your requirements.


Long live the D-50..

Re: Old D50 keyboard

7 Jun 2010, 11:13
Hi and thankyou for the care, time and attention you took in the reply you sent...I am grateful and impressed.
I ll try what you said tomorrow and let you know how it goes

Thankyou, once again...

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